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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was No move. With no opportunity for commonality forthcoming, we default to the earliest used English variant. Cúchullaint/c 19:48, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Comment I am North American, so I find that "door furniture" is kitsch furniture made out of old doors... (atleast some artsy-types seem to do this in my region) -- 18.104.22.168 (talk) 05:35, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
And you only have to read the first sentence of the article to learn that this is about something else. Interplanet Janet, EsquireIANAL 08:14, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Comment. Webster's does a better job of defining this use of furniture: "3. The necessary appendages to anything, as to a machine, a carriage, a ship, etc. (a) (Naut.) The masts and rigging of a ship. (b) (Mil.) The mountings of a gun. (c) Builders' hardware such as locks, door and window trimmings. (d) (Print) Pieces of wood or metal of a lesser height than the type, placed around the pages or other matter in a form, and, with the quoins, serving to secure the form in its place in the chase." machine furniture, carriage furniture, ship furniture, gun furniture, window furniture—why are these all red links? Wbm1058 (talk) 18:59, 19 July 2012 (UTC) OK, there aren't hardware articles for any of those either, but furniture (disambiguation) doesn't even require disambiguation. Wbm1058 (talk) 19:11, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Aha! using the intitle: parameter, query results can be narrowed by title. The search word(s) given to intitle: can be anywhere in the title.
Google Ngrams' country-specific categorization is notoriously unreliable; I don't think it's a good idea to take that data at face value. Regardless, it was not meant to be my point that "door hardware" is actually more common in Britain than "door furniture", only that the term ought to be perfectly clear to Britons and thus should be used per MOS:COMMONALITY. PowersT 23:36, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
Support per MOS:COMMONALITY. A term generally recognizable in the UK and US should be preferred to a term generally recognizable in only one or the other. --Born2cycle (talk) 20:05, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
The n-gram data and the B&Q searches linked above suggest that there is very little commonality, and that to them Brits "door hardware" does not include most of what they refer to as "door furniture". Maybe "Fixed-wing doorcraft" or something... Dicklyon (talk) 04:02, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
Comment: I believe the results shown by Wbm1058 indicate that the current title is likely to be confusing to U.S. readers. Given that the proposed title ("door hardware") is in use, if limited, in the UK, I think it's reasonable to conclude that it's likely to be less confusing to the greater number of readers. PowersT 19:14, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
But Dicklyon suggests 'door furniture hardware' is not common in the UK. Zarcadia (talk) 16:53, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Not that I know anything about the UK, and I don't mind if we move it to Door hardware, but that's what the evidence looks like to me. Dicklyon (talk) 17:08, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Well I'm not sure what evidence you're talking about, but if door furniture (the current title) is indeed less common in the UK, then there should be no objection to moving the article. PowersT 17:47, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Both the B&Q's online catalog and the books n-grams result suggest that "door furniture" is by far the predominant term in British English. Sorry, I mis-read the mis-statement above that "Dicklyon suggests 'door furniture' is not common in the UK" -- quite the opposite. Dicklyon (talk) 18:04, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Apologies for the confusion, I meant to say 'door hardware' is apparently less known in the UK. Personally I am not that familiar with either expression and don't prefer one over the other. Zarcadia (talk) 18:30, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.