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Draft:Tribal Rage[edit]

Hello Novem Linguae!

Hope you are well. I'd first like to thank you for taking the time to review my first contribution to Wikipedia, this being the proposed draft for Draft:Tribal Rage. I was naturally disappointed to see that you had rejected my attempt. I do understand your feedback about adding additional citations on top of what I have already provided, however, this game is 23 years old and they are proving very difficult to find. TalonSoft is long since defunct and many of the review websites since the games release are now also offline. The game is now, according to my research, largely considered Abandonware and there does not appear to be anywhere it can be purchased, with the exception of a certain auction website. Nevertheless, I have managed to locate approximately three additional sources which I hope you'll find satisfactory in order to have the article approved. In the event that you're still unsatisfied by the sources, might I kindly ask for any suggestions you might be able to offer me to bring the draft up to standard?

Again, thank you for your time and assistance with this. FancyDonut (talk) 19:43, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

FancyDonut, thanks for the message. The CD Mag and GameSpot sources look good. Any chance you can find one more source? Need 3 to pass WP:GNG. Reviews on major websites written by staff writers or articles in magazines are great for meeting GNG. WikiProject Video Games has a list of sources that may help. Please leave me a message when you're ready for me to re-check. I think your article will get promoted, just need that third source. –Novem Linguae (talk) 01:42, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
Novem Linguae, thank you for your prompt response on this. I have actually managed to find another source for the article - Gaming Entertainment Monthly. I did try to find even more sources, but the only one I could locate was a scanned review from "Reset magazine", written in German, which I didn't think would be appropriate. I'm hoping this will now be enough. What do you think? Kindly waiting your response. All the best - FancyDonut (talk) 13:20, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
FancyDonut, I don't think the Gaming Entertainment Monthly source passes GNG. It is an "online magazine" and looks a lot like a blog calling itself a magazine. Might have WP:SELFPUBLISH problems. That Reset Magazine source looks good and in my opinion counts as your 3rd GNG source. Foreign language sources are fine, feel free to add those to the English Wikipedia when needed. Congratulations, I'll be promoting your article shortly. Great job. Thank you for taking the time to look for these sources. –Novem Linguae (talk) 18:04, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
Novem Linguae, thank you so much for your assistance with this! Can't tell you how pleased I am to see my first article online. Thanks once again, your help has been very valuable and is really appreciated. FancyDonut (talk) 16:27, 7 April 2021 (UTC)


Thank you for leaving them this message. Although I doubt that they noticed my previous messages since they are using their sandbox as their talk page. --Ashleyyoursmile! 11:06, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Ashleyyoursmile, you're welcome. They draftified my CSD, so I figured I'd chime in. By the way, some of us hang out on WP:DISCORD (basically a chat room), and I always try to invite people. So consider this your invite :-) –Novem Linguae (talk) 11:11, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
I'll make sure to check it out. Thanks, Novem Linguae. :) Ashleyyoursmile! 11:15, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

In NPP School[edit] learn to wait at least 15 minutes...not 6... ;-) -> [1] CommanderWaterford (talk) 10:05, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

CommanderWaterford, true, looks like it's mentioned at WP:NPP and I forgot about it. Thanks for the reminder. I'll wait longer in the future. –Novem Linguae (talk) 10:11, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Two-faced Person[edit]

Hello. I saw your notes on this article. I looked into the term, and discovered it has quite an interesting history. What do you think now, notability-wise?--- Possibly (talk) 04:18, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Possibly, hello my friend. Thank you for your work on this article and for checking with me about this. The Diplomat source you added looks GNG passing to me. The others don't quite pass GNG, in my opinion. The article is not currently at my threshold to move it back, however I have no objections if you decide to move it back yourself. Hopefully you find this response acceptable. Happy editing my friend. –Novem Linguae (talk) 04:29, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for your quick reply. I am also not exactly sure, but leaning to move it to article space. The 1960s essay where the literary critic was called two-faced by a then gang-of-four member cuts it for me. But I'm going to keep looking into it. Thanks again for your thoughts!--- Possibly (talk) 04:35, 13 April 2021 (UTC)


hello my friend. Thank you for your work on the article[2] Draft:Mohammed Ajam and for checking with me about . I will try to do my best but it was more fair others help to improve the article and complete it as the sources are in Arabic and it need more specialty. it seems nobody will help to improve it in the draft. 06:56, 13 April 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basp1 (talkcontribs)

Basp1, hello friend. I made a post at WikiProject Arab World for you. Maybe they will be able to help. –Novem Linguae (talk) 08:21, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
  • thank you so much Novem Linguae. 04:54, 14 April 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basp1 (talkcontribs)

Just Want to Know[edit]

Why Deleted my articles . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amalsdamalsd (talkcontribs) 17:19, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Amalsdamalsd, hello. It looks like you recreated articles that were previously deleted in WP:AFD. In the future, I recommend that you use the WP:AFC process. –Novem Linguae (talk) 17:36, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Ok why that article was deleted previously. That article is malayalam movie. I love that movie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amalsdamalsd (talkcontribs) 17:58, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Amalsdamalsd, it looks like there was a week long deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kalyanappittannu, and 4 people voted delete. The article does not meet our notability rules (WP:GNG). Notability determines what is allowed to have an article. Not everything can have an article. There needs to be multiple good sources such as newspaper articles and books. Else it is difficult to write a good encyclopedia article. –Novem Linguae (talk) 18:05, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Edit on Talia Mar[edit]

Dexerto is unreliable per WP:VG/RS. SK2242 (talk) 21:31, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

SK2242, good info. Thank you. –Novem Linguae (talk) 23:11, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Lily Gao has been accepted[edit]

Lily Gao, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as Stub-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. It is commonplace for new articles to start out as stubs and then attain higher grades as they develop over time. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for creation if you prefer.

If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the help desk. Once you have made at least 10 edits and had an account for at least four days, you will have the option to create articles yourself without posting a request to Articles for creation.

If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider leaving us some feedback.

Thanks again, and happy editing!

CommanderWaterford (talk) 08:52, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

NPP School[edit]

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On behalf of the New pages patrol School, congratulations! You have successfully completed all assignments and have now graduated from the School. Well done!
You did an amazing job It's been a real pleasure to work with you and I hope you gained something from this course. All the best and thank you so much for your willingness to help Wikipedia in this role. Onel5969 TT me 13:51, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to New Page Patrol![edit]

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Welcome, Novem Linguae to the New Page Patrol team.

Congratulations on receiving the New Page Patrol user permission and on becoming a part of the patroller community. Our mission is to accurately, rather than quickly, handle the new articles which are created. As you begin to patrol it's natural to have lots of questions. Feel free to ask on my talk page or ask for thoughts in the New Page Patroller IRC channel #wikimedia-npp connect or on our Discord server (invite link). We also regularly discuss issues and topics surrounding New Page Patrolling at the NPP discussion page and I would invite you to join us there. If you have any questions please feel free to ask me. I hope you find NPP as rewarding as I do and, again, welcome to the community. Barkeep49 (talk) 14:39, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to our illustrious circle @Novem Linguae - looked to me probably the longest NPP School I have seen so far ;-) CommanderWaterford (talk) 15:30, 20 April 2021 (UTC)


Wikipedia Rollbacker.svg

Hi Novem Linguae. After reviewing your request for "rollbacker", I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:

  • Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
  • Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
  • Rollback should never be used to edit war.
  • If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
  • Use common sense.

If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! Beeblebrox (talk) 20:49, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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thank you Iamwillow (talk) 08:19, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
Iamwillow. You're very welcome. Happy editing. –Novem Linguae (talk) 08:40, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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This barnstar is for you, who always helped me improve as an editor in Wikipedia. Thank you so much for the help. Please let me know if I can return the favour. YehWolf 🐺 10:16, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
YehWolf. It's been my pleasure. You're doing a great job and learning very fast. Keep up the good work. –Novem Linguae (talk) 10:17, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

European Association for Biometrics[edit]

Hi, I have improved, sourced, would you mind to have a look if it's better? Regards, LukaszKatlewa (talk) 08:08, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

LukaszKatlewa, hello friend. I took a look at your new sources. Remember, we need multiple paragraphs of coverage in high quality sources like newspapers and books. The sources you added have issues with reliability and secondary coverage. WP:GNG talks about this a bit. I am duty bound to AFD this. It's nothing personal, all English Wikipedia articles get reviewed, and this one happened to be in my queue. Feel free to post in the AFD discussion. Take care. –Novem Linguae (talk) 09:29, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Removing a “dead” user box[edit]

There is a non-existent user box on my profile. Can you please remove it for me? I don’t know how Filmmaker8306 (talk) 19:06, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Filmmaker8306, done. [3]. Happy editing. –Novem Linguae (talk) 20:55, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, friend Filmmaker8306 (talk) 23:24, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Ryan Rodrigs[edit]

Hi! I've noticed that you have proposed the above article that I accepted in AfC for deletion. I don't entirely object the fact that it is not really that notable and I would not be against it if you go on with the PROD, but I just want to tell you I have approved the article based on the Ottawa Business Journal source and I find the source acceptable since it talks about him and they are not just passing mentions. Nevertheless, I agree that the sources you named are not that reliable. Any thoughts? Thanks and happy editing! WikiAviator talk 02:11, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

WikiAviator. Hey there. Thanks for the comment. I agree that the Ottawa Business Journal source is the best source currently in the article. Assuming that one is independent enough, and assuming the other two are not, then we are short of three GNG passing sources. I have no objections if you or anybody removes the prod. However I am confident enough in this one that if the prod is removed, I'd probably AFD it. Nothing personal, it was just in the NPP queue and I happened to run across it. Happy editing. –Novem Linguae (talk) 17:12, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
Oh, I'll add that I think and CBC News are reliable and are significant coverage. My issue is 100% with the "independence" aspect of WP:GNG. I was taught that an article that is mostly quotes is not independent enough to pass that part of GNG. –Novem Linguae (talk) 17:15, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
For the CBC source, it returned with a 404. For the Ottawa one, although it is mostly quotes, it is still counted as "significant coverage" since there are still some descriptions. I think this a borderline case and I find it hard to decide too. Perhaps I will remove the PROD and you can propose it for AfD to get a better picture of community consensus. Thanks! :) WikiAviator talk 02:07, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm ready for my close-up[edit]

Draft:Tubby Raskin --2603:7000:2143:8500:CBB:4CD4:28D5:435D (talk) 06:39, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

I evaluated the draft for you. Hope it helps. –Novem Linguae (talk) 04:10, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Help me for improving Vikram Sachora page.[edit]

Hey Novem Linguae, Please help me for improving Draft: Vikram_Sachora Page. GyaniBandaSD (talk) 07:06, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello. I reviewed your draft. [4]. Hope it helps. –Novem Linguae (talk) 07:15, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Pound Sterling Article[edit] (talk) 13:30, 26 April 2021 (UTC)Hello Novem, I received a message that the added link to the article Pound sterling is not appropriate so it was removed. Please have a look again. I would like to add a reference to the word "Cable" it is a term used in currency trading so the hyperlink redirects to a financial blog that explains it and gives more examples of such jargon words. Please elaborate on why the reference and links were removed. See the link again attached: (talk) 13:30, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Hey there. Thansk for the note. Couple of issues with your edit. [5]. 1) We should not put external links in the article body, only in the "External links" section at the bottom. 2) We should not put external links, Wikilinks, or references in section headings. That goes against our normal article formatting style. 3) We should not use blogs as they are WP:SELFPUBLISH and not a reliable source. Reliable sources are things like newspapers and books. Here's a list to give you an idea. WP:RSPSOURCES. Hope that helps. Happy editing. –Novem Linguae (talk) 21:36, 26 April 2021 (UTC)


Thank you for reaching back. I understand that we cannot put citations on the titles. Would you mind elaborating on how it is different to make references 72 and 76 as already in the Pound sterling article, that redirects to OANDA, a broker as well? The blog that I add links to is written by experts in their field that were awarded as Best Research Team. For more information, you can see their biographies. Please mind that the same were cites in media as Bloomberg, etc. so I do believe that the information will be accurate and relevant for the Wikipedia audience. Thank you for your consideration. (talk) 07:11, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello friend. I'm not seeing anything obvious in Google News searches that indicates that Adrian Filip is regarded as an expert in his industry. There is an "expert" exception to WP:SELFPUBLISH, but it used rarely, and needs to be supported by evidence. The Oanda citation is to data, which is better than a blog, but might also need to be replaced. Anyway, just my advice. Take care. –Novem Linguae (talk) 08:54, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you![edit]

Cup-o-coffee-simple.svg Thanks for good vandalism patrolling with Huggle. I checked some of your edits and thought they were great. Blue Rasberry (talk) 23:22, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
Bluerasberry, thank you very much. By the way, I chuckled after reading your name, seeing your userpage's background color, seeing multiple pictures of you in blue suits, then finally running across this userbox at the bottom.
Color icon blue.svg This user's favourite colour is blue.
The perfect userbox for you :) –Novem Linguae (talk) 23:40, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

A cookie for you![edit]

Choco chip cookie.png Thank you for all the very helpful issues opened on GitHub! Although I may not be able to get to them that quickly, I really appreciate the effort. Please have this pixelated cookie. Enterprisey (talk!) 08:53, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
Enterprisey, thanks for the cookie my friend. No rush. I plan to submit pull requests for some of these, once I finish up some other tech projects I'm working on such as User:NovemBot. –Novem Linguae (talk) 09:07, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks — copyright issue[edit]

Thank you for your fix... any closeness on Rosamond's page was unintentional, but I will certainly be more careful! Johnshade2 (talk) 17:38, 27 April 2021 (UTC)


Hi. GNG requires "more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material." It does not require "multiple" (not three) sources, of three paragraphs each. There is a great difference between what GNG requires in this regard, and your personal view. --2603:7000:2143:8500:E859:840:B60B:D974 (talk) 17:36, 27 April 2021 (UTC)


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For constantly reducing the AfC Backlog CommanderWaterford (talk) 13:53, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
CommanderWaterford, thank you very much. You're doing an excellent job yourself. I believe you have the most AFC reviews within the last 30 days. Great job! –Novem Linguae (talk) 13:56, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Re My "Bullying" Text, a Thanks for Commenting[edit]

Ref Editor_assistance/Requests#Harassment%2C_Bullying%2C_Uncivil_Commentary%3A_Parsecboy

First, please accept my apologies for the long time to respond, but I've had some things go on. I just wanted to thank you for taking time to look in on what I posted, and will get back to you. Don't want you to think you wasted your time. I'm kind of a noob and not a great programmer, so it took me a while to figure out how to do the "diff" link. Will get back and interested in what you think. Take care.

Brucelucier (talk) 02:26, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Smell training[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 5 May 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Smell training, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that smell training is being used to treat long-term loss of smell after COVID-19 infection? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Smell training. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Smell training), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 12:02, 5 May 2021 (UTC)


You declined Draft:Habitation and Logistics Outpost (Gateway Module). It is a draft being worked on by the Mir, ISS, and Gateway task force at WikiProject Spaceflight. There are articles for other parts of the same space station. This article was requested by the task force. Please reconsider the declining. StarshipSLS (talk) 13:46, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

@StarshipSLS He will not reconsider it, I am sure - any Reviewer would have declined it. Please read the comments given to you. On this draft only worked you as far as I see. You still do not seem to understand our policies although we gave you lots of info and hints in the last couple of days. CommanderWaterford (talk) 15:25, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
@CommanderWaterford: I Yes, I understand the problems with it now.
More references for notability
Less copied text and more new text
Note: This is a requested article from Wikipedia:WikiProject Spaceflight/Mir, ISS and Gateway task force. StarshipSLS (talk) 15:38, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
And, more users need to work on it with me. StarshipSLS (talk) 15:39, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
It is completely irrelevant for a review who or how many people have requested an article, even if Jimbo in person would have requested it and I am pretty sure that they requested more than just a simple copy & paste of a PR newsrelease. CommanderWaterford (talk) 16:16, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
@CommanderWaterford: You put the press release in there. This is what I am going to do:
  1. Post a message on the WikiProject Spaceflight Talk Page
  2. Work together with other editors
  3. Resubmit
  4. Draft Accepted
StarshipSLS (talk) 18:42, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
@StarshipSLS I did not put no press release at all in your draft. But sure, go ahead and work on this draft. CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:45, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

A goat for you![edit]

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Thanks for your global Visual Editor!

 Qwerfjkl|   21:06, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Qwerfjkl, you're very welcome. Have a great day :-) –Novem Linguae (talk) 10:28, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Reverted change[edit]

Hi, is "Early 2021" a better grammar ?

Sincerely — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parminous (talkcontribs)

Parminous. Hey there. [6]. I'd recommend changing it to: In January 2021, the chair of the EU Tax Matters Subcommittee Paul Tang criticised the list for not including "renowned tax havens" such as Jersey. Please note the two spots I bolded. Hope that helps. –Novem Linguae (talk) 12:40, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Bless you for your participation in my english grammar overhaul. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parminous (talkcontribs)

Draft:ICICB Group[edit]

Thanks for your help and learn me how to edit the page, I've edited the part. The article about the company is the partner with atari. Can you help me again and let me know the next steps — Preceding unsigned comment added by بسمة النظامي (talkcontribs)


Wow, you are fast! Hockeycatcat (talk) 10:53, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Hockeycatcat, thanks. WP:HUGGLE is a super fast tool. Have you tried it? Spacebar to load next edit, Q to rollback and warn and load next edit. –Novem Linguae (talk) 10:56, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

I have heard of it, but I'm just starting to get used to RedWarn. I will give it a try soon! Cheers, Hockeycatcat (talk) 11:01, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Revert of recent edits to Representational state transfer[edit]

Hi Novem Linguae,

You have recently reverted my week’s work on the article Representational state transfer, claiming that they may violate copyright. This is not the case, as Roy Fielding states explicitly on the site hosting his doctoral dissertation (

Copying or printing this work

You may have noticed that I have included a copyright statement of "All rights reserved" on all pages of this HTML edition. The purpose of that is to make it clear who owns the copyright (me) so that you don't go asking the University of California or UMI (the microfiche archive company) for the following permission.

I, Roy Thomas Fielding, hereby grant permission to You, whoever you may be, to copy, print, or otherwise reproduce this dissertation for non-commercial use (including classroom, research, government use, or anything covered by the usual notion of "fair use") in its original PDF edition, 2-up PDF edition, or HTML edition, or excerpts thereof, provided that any such reproduction includes the full reference to this work, as described below, either on the initial page of the reproduction or by citation to a list of references within a larger work.

If you would like to reproduce this work for commercial purposes, as in selling it as a book or a significant part of a published compilation, then you will have to ask for my permission separately.

So could we restore my work?

Best regards,

Maggyero (talk) 17:37, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Maggyero. Thanks for the explanation, I did not see that. I do not think that this copyright license is permissive enough, as there is a clear "© Roy Thomas Fielding, 2000. All rights reserved." at the bottom of the source page, and also "educational use only" licenses are not usually considered permissive enough to use at Wikipedia. But I am not an expert on this, so I am happy to ping Diannaa for a second opinion, if she's available and willing. Hope that helps. –Novem Linguae (talk) 21:00, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
That's not a compatible license, because it does not allow commercial use, and our license allows any use whatsoever, including commercial use.— Diannaa 🇨🇦 (talk) 21:58, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
@Diannaa: Thank you. So what is the process now? Can I submit a copyright compliant version this weekend? Maggyero (talk) 22:39, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Hey Maggyero. I already removed the problem text from the article and submitted a request for revision deletion. The old revisions will be hidden from view. If you continue work on the article, you will need to make sure that you do not use copy pasted text. Please use the current, copyright compliant version as a base. Hope that helps. –Novem Linguae (talk) 22:42, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for you help. I will better paraphrase. Could I request your review when I am done? Maggyero (talk) 23:48, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Maggyero, sure. Two tips, if I may. 1) Check this tool every once in awhile to make sure your additions aren't setting off the copyright detector. 2) Consider using the existing structure of the article as a base, rather than doing a complete re-write. Small, incremental changes are more likely to be found acceptable. –Novem Linguae (talk) 04:17, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the tool suggestion, I really like that tool. What is the maximal similarity percentage of the copyright detector for an acceptable article on Wikipedia? Maggyero (talk) 09:08, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
Maggyero, best to examine the red highlighted text on the left. Only quotes and proper nouns should be highlighted. Once you get over like 5 unquoted words in a row highlighted, that's getting into copy paste territory, which isn't permitted. Hope that helps. –Novem Linguae (talk) 12:27, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
I see. Thanks for you help. Maggyero (talk) 16:42, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

"Nothing personal" – does that still apply?[edit]

A while ago, you said "nothing personal". It was when you moved "video game piracy" article back to its original title, I think. Does that still apply? I don't feel happy at all right now. I don't feel happy in general. Do you think that I'm trying to be disruptive? You have no obligation to believe me but I promise you I'm not. I've seen a problem and I'm trying to fix it. Is it my wording that causes me to fail? Or is it something else? Please help me. This situation is depressing. DesertPipeline (talk) 04:32, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

DesertPipeline, hello. Yeap, nothing personal still applies. I think you're a good person and I think you're editing in good faith. I do not think you're being intentionally disruptive. You're not edit warring, and you're keeping most of this on talk pages, which is good. I am just not comfortable having this "software piracy" POV stuff in mainspace or in a Wikipedia essay that gives advice to users. My view has solidified on this since we last talked, because this issue has come up on 3 talk pages that I'm following, and if I recall correctly multiple editors have sided against this POV, and not a single editor has sided with this POV. Also, we asked you to userfy your POV essay Wikipedia:Loaded words and terms on Wikipedia, and you declined, so the next logical step is MFD.
Is it my wording that causes me to fail? Or is it something else? The core problem is that reliable sources are fine with the phrase "software piracy", but you are not. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. We are a WP:TERTIARY source that summarizes what WP:SECONDARY sources (such as newspapers and books) say. We do not get to decide these things ourselves. We must summarize what reliable secondary sources say. It is OK to have a personal POV, we all do. But it is not OK to let it show in our editing. We must always remain neutral in the sense that we survey what secondary sources say about something, then we cover the ideas proportionally. Please see WP:WEIGHT and WP:NPOV. –Novem Linguae (talk) 07:48, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
Then should I give up trying to fix things here and simply focus on the real world? DesertPipeline (talk) 07:51, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi DesertPipeline. In my personal opinion, I think you should give up on editing your personal list of loaded words out of articles. A strong consensus seems to have formed against that. However you are of course welcome to help out doing pretty much anything and everything else. For example, your talk page says you enjoy copy editing, so that'd be a great area to jump into. Just be receptive to feedback and you'll be fine. It may seem like it's a bunch of people posting their personal opinions and corrections on talk pages, but there's actually a lot of written and unwritten norms around here. If an experienced editor is making the post, it is often not an attempt to bully you into following an opinion, but rather to let you know what the norm is around here. Hope that helps. –Novem Linguae (talk) 08:05, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. I was too vague in my comment though; I meant should I stop trying to fix things here relating to these words and instead try to solve the problem in the real world itself? DesertPipeline (talk) 08:07, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
DesertPipeline, yes, I think that'd be a good idea. –Novem Linguae (talk) 08:12, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
Okay; thank you. I have no idea how I'm going to do that, especially with the CVD-19 pandemic still going on, but I don't want to do nothing about all the problems in the world. DesertPipeline (talk) 08:16, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
DesertPipeline, hmm, maybe start a blog on or something similar? Or maybe see if GNU has a forum/Discord and participate there? –Novem Linguae (talk) 08:29, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
I'm not sure if I trust WordPress; if I were to do something like that, I'd probably want to host my own website (even though I don't have a computer I can leave on all the time for that). I've never liked Discord – it's proprietary spyware. It would be strange if any GNU community was using it. DesertPipeline (talk) 09:01, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Allegra Mostyn-Owen[edit]

Hello, I have added one additional source from the Evening Standard as you requested for Draft:Allegra_Mostyn-Owen article. Please let me know if this will suffice. Thank you. --Death Star Central (talk) 08:01, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Death Star Central, thanks for your work on the article. This new source appears to be based off an interview (lots of quotes), so arguably is not independent. Also, it being from the same newspaper as one of the other GNG sources is also not ideal (ideally, all 3 should be different). It doesn't quite pass my threshold yet, but I am happy to leave it in the queue for another reviewer. Or you could also add some additional sources and I'll take another look. Hope that helps. –Novem Linguae (talk) 08:21, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
@Novem Linguae Oh, I see what you mean. Here is another article from The Times I have now added to this article. You need to subscribe to read it fully, but you can subscribe one month for free on a smartphone. --Death Star Central (talk) 08:32, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Death Star Central, thanks for that source. I obtained a copy through WP:RX and read it. I am concerned that the author has too close a relationship to the article subject (talks about going places with her), OR that the entire article is a submission from a reader (says "Email yasmin with your life-affirming true stories" at the bottom). –Novem Linguae (talk) 10:33, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
@Novem LinguaeRight, ok. Well how about this reference in The Siasat Daily, titled "Abdul Majid with his new wife" that I have added to the article?--Death Star Central (talk) 11:50, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Fixed archiving on User talk:Novem Linguae/Newsletters[edit]

Hi! I took the liberty of fixing the auto-archiving settings at User talk:Novem Linguae/Newsletters. The bot will only archive to a subpage of the page to be archived, otherwise the page shows up in Category:Pages where archive parameter is not a subpage. So I configured it to use User talk:Novem Linguae/Newsletters/Archive 1 (at first, it'll automatically increase the counter if the first archive is full). --rchard2scout (talk) 09:25, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Rchard2scout. Well spotted. Thank you for your assistance. –Novem Linguae (talk) 11:45, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Original Barnstar Hires.png The Original Barnstar
Thanks for creating VisualEditorEverywhere!!! —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:34, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Tenryuu. You're very welcome. Thanks for the barnstar. Happy editing :) –Novem Linguae (talk) 20:46, 7 June 2021 (UTC)


Would you mind adding

=== User scripts ===
* '''[[User:Novem Linguae/Scripts/CiteHighlighter|CiteHighlighter]]''' - Highlights 1,800 sources green, yellow, or red depending on reliability.
*'''[[User:Novem Linguae/Scripts/NPPLinks|NPPLinks]]''' - Adds [[WP:BEFORE]], copyvio check, duplicate article check, and other useful [[wikipedia:NPP|New Page Patrol]] links to the left menu.
*'''[[User:Novem Linguae/Scripts/UserHighlighterSimple|UserHighlighterSimple]]''' - Highlights usernames based on permissions and edit count. User permission data is updated '''''<u>daily</u>''''' by [[User:NovemBot|NovemBot]].
*'''[[User:Novem Linguae/Scripts/VisualEditorEverywhere|VisualEditorEverywhere]]''' - Displays the Visual Editor "Edit" tab and "Edit" section link on pages that don't normally have them: templates, talk pages, Wikipedia namespace.
*[[User:Novem Linguae/Scripts/Links.js|'''Links.js''']] - Adds some links to the left menu, including pending changes, subpages, central auth, common.js, and global.js.

* [[User:Novem Linguae/Scripts/RequestedArticleSifter.js|'''RequestedArticleSifter.js''']] - Mass deletes entries at [[Wikipedia:Requested articles/Business and economics/Companies]] that do not have at least 2 sources.
*'''[[User:Novem Linguae/Scripts/CopyTitle.js|CopyTitle.js]]''' - Adds a "Copy" button next to article titles. Clicking on it copies the title to the clipboard.

to User:Novem Linguae/Scripts, for more clarity. (The wikitext was copied from your userpage.) Qwerfjkl | 𝕋𝔸𝕃𝕂  (please use {{reply to|Qwerfjkl}} on reply) 20:23, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Qwerfjkl,  Done. I added a redirect so I don't have to keep it updated in two places. Hope that helps. –Novem Linguae (talk) 01:23, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! ― Qwerfjkl | 𝕋𝔸𝕃𝕂  (please use {{reply to|Qwerfjkl}} on reply) 06:05, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Li-Meng Yan[edit]

In the revert summary, you have written "bio-engineering is still considered a conspiracy theory" Nope! The 'Lab leak theory' argues about 'gain-of-function' research in Wuhan lab, it is bio-engineering! I think you meant deliberate genetic engineering of coronaviruses. Considering, her more sinister claims that the virus is a tool in Chinese biological warfare. Well, that could qualify as conspiracy theory for now. :) Neurofreak (talk) 12:58, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement § Normchou[edit]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement § Normchou. Shibbolethink ( ) 00:17, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Lab Leak[edit]

I just wanted to say that despite taking the opposite point of view as your essay, I actually do like it. In fact I've recently ripped you off . . . twice! Cheers. Adoring nanny (talk) 02:30, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Adoring nanny, thanks for the message. I'm glad you like. I try to stay out of the edit wars and just work on my essay. Life is simpler that way :) –Novem Linguae (talk) 06:41, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Adding the section about Reverse cargo cult and its subsequent removing[edit]