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Category:CS1 maint: DOI inactive as of August 2020[edit]

Hello, Trappist,

No, this isn't about CSI:Miami, I just came across this empty, dated category that would ordinary be deleted as uncontroversial maintenance but I have never come across a category like this one before. So I thought I'd check with you to see if it was still of use and might not be empty soon. Thanks for any clarification you can provide. Liz Read! Talk! 01:40, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

The category should never be populated again once it has been cleared. Citation bot probably cleared the category by updating the |doi-broken= parameter as it did with this article which is now in Category:CS1 maint: DOI inactive as of September 2020. When empty and when time has passed the category by, delete.
Trappist the monk (talk) 11:48, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Calling Santa Clause for help[edit]

One last try: Take a look - Klein Muçi (talk) 09:27, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Diberri (Boghog) filling tool[edit]

Hi, User talk:Trappist the monk

You and I were editing endometriosis Diff at the same time. Thank you. I hope you are OK with my edits.

General information: I used the Diberri (Boghog) Wikipedia template filling tool, to complete it. Diberri (Boghog) generates a Vancouver style citation with PubMed ID (PMID), PubMed Central ID (PMCID), URL, ISBN, DrugBank ID, HGNC ID, or PubChem ID. -- Memdmarti (talk) 15:27, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Yep, we were. And, yep, I know about that tool though I don't use it. You might want to introduce the tool to Huhiop whose name I have recently seen associated with similarly mangled cs1|2 templates. Whatever tool they are using inserts invisible   characters and does not properly format the names for |vauthors=.
Trappist the monk (talk) 15:36, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
Alright for me thanks, I will look into the tool when time allowsHuhiop (talk) 15:40, 21 November 2020 (UTC) Just tried the tool, trully awesome would be cool if it could add automatically those at begining and end, "<ref name=> and < / ref >, thanks Memdmarti
Thank you, Huhiop and User talk:Trappist the monk! Also consider using SandyGeorgia's [LastName][year][p][page#] format for "ref name=." For the MRI article that would be "Ref name=Wild2020p20200690." "deependomri" is also descriptive and good. --Memdmarti (talk) 16:21, 21 November 2020 (UTC)


Hi Trappist. I, too, used to place script-title but then I happened to read that this is reserved for occasions when the original title has been romanized for the title field. That is, you cannot have script-title without also having title. Here's the example from template:citation:

... |title=Tōkyō tawā |script-title=ja:東京タワー |trans-title=Tokyo Tower ...

I do not find it necessary to romanize Japanese titles in most cases. Best,  Mr.choppers | ✎  03:22, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

reserved? you cannot have script-title without also having title? I don't know where you read that, but it is utter nonsense. |script-title= does not require |title= and never has. The various |script-<param>= parameters are always useful because, under the bonnet, they indicate to browsers and screen readers the language of the text they contain so that those user agents can render or speak the text correctly. Further, when Latin script would be italicized in |title= and any of the various |periodical= parameters, using the |script-<param>= parameters prevents the cs1|2 templates from italicizing CJK script.
Please tell me where you read this nonsense so that I can fix it.
Trappist the monk (talk) 04:06, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
At Template:Citation#Title. "If script-title is defined, title holds a Romanization of title in script-title."  Mr.choppers | ✎  14:15, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
I think that you are reading more into that than exist. Still, I have tweaked the text a bit.
Trappist the monk (talk) 14:58, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Forgive my ignorance, but shouldn't |language= provide what browsers etc need to operate properly? Then |script-title= would only apply when one wanted to romanize a title. Anyhow, this is above my pay grade, just wanted to make sure that everyone who writes at Template:Citation are on the same page. Best,  Mr.choppers | ✎  02:45, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Short help[edit]

Hey, Trappist!

They made the needed change with the missing parenthesis on Phabricator. Can you help me see the end result in module Smallem so I know where to add that missing parenthesis on Smallem's source code? - Klein Muçi (talk) 11:38, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

I think you should wait until the fix is actually propagated so that we know exactly what it is that MediaWiki returns. Still broken here:
{{#language:es-419|yo}} → Èdè Sípáníìṣì (orílẹ̀-èdè Látìn-Amẹ́ríkà) ( Èdè Sípáníìshì (Látìn-Amẹ́ríkà)
To see what sq:Moduli:smallem returns, run the module on only code yo; look for es-419. Currently it's this:
"(\{\{\s*cit[aeio][^\}]*\|\s*language\s*=\s*)Èdè\ Sípáníìṣì\ \(orílẹ̀-èdè\ Látìn-Amẹ́ríkà\)\ \(\ Èdè\ Sípáníìshì\ \(Látìn-Amẹ́ríkà\)(\s*[\|\}])" "\1es-419\2" \
Doesn't a simple text search of the smallem code for Èdè\ Sípáníìṣì get you to the correct location?
Trappist the monk (talk) 11:55, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Yes, it does but the problem is I don't really know where to add it. The parenthesis. It seems all Greek to me what I'm reading. :P Well, not really Greek but... XD - Klein Muçi (talk) 12:09, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Why would you not replace the whole regex? When the fix propagates, run sq:Moduli:smallem on code yo, extract the es-419 regex from the code yo output, locate the broken regex in the smallem code and replace it? Why would you not do that?
Trappist the monk (talk) 12:18, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Well, that's exactly what I asked for. What should I run on module Smallem. Apparently "yo". That answers the question. :P - Klein Muçi (talk) 13:01, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

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